Found car listed on autotrader.com for $16,950, via online chat I inquired about the car and told them my budget was $15k out the door including tax. They responded they had room to negotiate and I decided to come over for a test drive. I knew my $15k was optimistic, but their first offer added some BS $1k fee to the online listed price before even considering taxes and other fees. I just left. Not to mention they were completely clueless about the car they were selling which had 6 year old tires that were cracking from age.