It's sad to see that ASU, Ping, and Pete Dye came together and all that came out of it was a mediocre "muni" type course. the sand traps are dirt and some are grass probably because they game up on them. narrow fairways and high berms because most of the fairways run parallel to each other. I paid a low summer rate to play and I'da been really angry if I'da paid high rates in the cool season. the one excuse I can think of for this track is the piece of land they had to work with. pass this one by. I won't be back.