15 years ago, the owners of Back East Bagels were old Jewish New York men whom moved out to AZ for arthritic reasons had opened up an outstanding bagel shop and it was wonderful. Kind nurturing dependable people. As with all good things they must come to an end. Some jerk bought the place messed with the recipe and now here we are. No it's not as good as it once was, but I will speak highly of the spinach herb cream cheese. But that's about it. Can't stand the owner, cocky weird and unfriendly. Why did he have to change the recipe, it was so delicious and great.