Ok, so help me out. I hear so much great things about this place, but I have been there about three times already and it has always been dead. I hear of packed nights, but I guess it is only during certain hours. That's fine, but I like bars that get steady business no matter what time it is. They don't even have happy hour or any drink specials. There is a card I guess you can sign up for to get like a dollar or two off of your drinks, what is this Von's. There is a jukebox you can use if there is not a apple laptop dj there. The booth and couch seating is very nice, and I guess if you are looking for just a cool place to be alone with your friends for drinks then it is ok, but sometimes you just want to party and this is not the spot.