Was here the first time in June of 2017, and it was pretty good. Challenging holes and a pretty good value for the area. Only played the front nine then so we decided to come back today and play the back nine..... Well, everything was going okay, we had a crappy cart that seemed like it was going to die out on us for a while, kept hitting balls into the woods-nothing unusual for us, until the groundskeeper came over to us and accused us of running over the 13th green and saying that some ladies who" have been golfing here for 30 years-why would they lie?" told him it was us! Well my husband is a stickler for doing things "by the book" and the right way-so there is no way that this happened. Will never be back here again! Will never have to as we will be out of Ohio permanently before winter! Same is true about this whole area--If you don't "come from" around here or have lived here for years and years you are considered an outsider and are treated like garbage! Good riddance Lorain County!!