These pups are born at nasty puppy mills, with several Infractions. Just google it once you ask for the breeders information, which is annoying because the woman looked me dead in my face and said they choose specific breeders. They won't give you a price on a puppy until you've held it. Basically it's them saying we want you to hold it and if you love it and it's $4,000 were still gonna try and push the pup on you anyways, even if you can't afford it. Just a waste of both our time. Bad business. Go to a shelter where people aren't trying to make big profit off of animals.