Low quality junk! That's what most stores sell. I challenge you to do what I did, go to Tyndall Furniture - ask the sales guy about couches, what to look for in quality. Then go to all the furniture places around the area, the fancy ones especially. Not ashley or rooms to go (you should already know that stuff is junk..uh, even though I didn't hehe) The first thing you're going to learn is that quality from one of these places is extraordinarily expensive, way more than it needs to be. I wish I could remember the name of the furniture place where the pretty lady told me that that steel cable and eight-way hand-tied are practically the same thing. Thanks to the internet and John Dixon (my sales guy deserves honorable mention) - I knew better. Thanks for the information and the great couch John!