Funny thing, I saw a car on their website and used KBB instant offer with the same identical vehicle. They have it listed for $24000.00 and the instant value they were willing to offer for the same vehicle was $17200. So as soon as you drive it off the lot you're $6800 in the hole. And just say you have a trade in. They use the same KBB website. So you may be in the hole deeper if you owe on your trade