I just bought a used car from this dealership and it was a super easy process. There initial price was 1k under kelley blue book and they gave me a fair price on my trade in. So there was very little negotiation needed. Also the process to test drive and buy the car only took a couple hours. I had been working with Chapman BMW for weeks and they never wanted to sell me a car. You had to really negotiate with them and I still don't think you would get to the same price as Scottsdale BMW. This is the second car I bought from a Penski dealership and they both were really good experiences. I would highly recommend this dealership.