I couldn't wait to try this place - I had heard so many great things about the burgers and I do love a great burger. There was really nothing special about the burger! We were there for lunch - I have a feeling that this place is the ultimate after having a few and being really hungry. But for me - if you want a GREAT burger, go to Sonoma for the Kobe beef burger - much much better - but not as casual of an atmosphere...