Post cars on Auto trader with price of your cash for clunkers trade-in included in the price of the car thus making it by default so their cars show up first on search list when ordered by price. They will always show up low on price and when you get there they will tell you that it was for only a special circumstance. They want to sell you the car at MSRP then take your trade in and make it seem like somehow because when you walk away its cheaper than the sticker price you won. They are a complete joke and waste of time. If I were you before making an offer I would just call on the phone and negotiate as much of a deal as possible. Then when you have "agreed" have them send you by email the exact price sheet of your "deal" odds are you will not get up off the couch and it will save you a great deal of time. I do not recommend them at all, but neither has anybody else.