They really put the TERRIBLE in terrible herbst, every time I go to wash my truck I get pestered by panhandlers. Saying they ran out of gas , the same gal pestered me 3 times. I told the hobbit inside to do something about it and she just rolled her eyes and shrugged her shoulders. They don't maintain the car wash bays so , be on the lookout for mud,cement and other debris before you approach with your car. Once you exit the bay you will come across a pack of hobo's. This completes the shadyness of the area. I wouldn't go to this area at night, especially if you have a flashy vehicle. The Hobos and other miscreants eyeball you, so unless this place did a complete overhaul I would recommend going somewhere else for your gas and car wash needs.