Why was I here? I have to seek assistance & bug the helpful Ace hardware man (John) who pretty much thought I was clueless. Oh well, at least I got my answers for the home repair questions I usually don't have time to deal with... I even bought stuff & was thrilled I spied a 50% off coupon they have hanging by the front of the store. This by the way was one of the largest, neatest & cleanest stores I've seen but I may have to do a tour of Ace hardware's 2B sure.