Maybe I caught a good night? I live on the Danforth so I know all about sketchy patio people but there were none on the night I went. Staff were very friendly and super attentive. There were two forms of entertainment going on that night with a jam session happening upstairs and a solo guitar performer playing downstairs. Drinks were reasonably priced. The place also gets bonus points for being right beside the subway. I think the only areas I'd take away points are the decor which gets more and more ugly as you move from the patio to the back of the building and the smaller crowd which hinders mingling to some degree. I'd go back.