Your experience at Palm Valley will completely depend on the time of year that you choose to play. The course gets very heavy Snow Bird action during the season and the pace of play slows to the speed of mud. Not uncommon to find 3 or more groups waiting on the tee boxes of the par 3's. Course is usually In Good shape but Zero marshals out trying to get things moving. If you have all day and don't mind waiting it a a fun course