Came here with a group of 6 on the evening of 8/18. With how hot it was outside, it made sense the only seating available was outside. They did however have misters going to keep the outside seating area bearable. I found the beer value to be that of a good one. 32 oz beer for $6 was too good to pass up. The burgers were alright. Fried mozzarella egg roll style was a surprise, and a good one. I would give Zipps another try.