I'm sorry but I totally love this place! When it's 100 and stoopid in the valley I go up here to chill out...literally! It's always about 30 degrees cooler on the mountain-top, but a place to relax and have a brew while watching the not-so-heavy sunset in the middle of summer? BIG BONUS! The food is ok, but the people are just out of control!!! I wrote a rule in "the book" proud of #45 woot woot!!!