as an out of shape fat guy, I really liked this hike but It was particularly strenuous for me, as I started the ascent in, the thin air already had me breathing heavily as I noticed they people passing me I knew I was in terrible shape, but this is no race, as I told myself when a two year old passed me holding hands with her mother as I also knew gravity was no enemy of hers like it was for me. The joy I had repassing the two year old minutes later was fantastic as the kid petered out and had to be carried. This hike is my favorite around the valley, maybe only Turtlehead peak is as good as this one.