Lets get one thing clear. This place sucks. The servers are absolutely rude, last time i was there i got fully confronted about not leaving eneough tip, even when the pitcher was rounded up in price. The washroom has a thing layer of piss or water on it at all times. the place smells terrible, and its right beside sneeky d's, my all time favorite bar in toronto. So why go? Ill tell you why, theres something to be said for that type of ultimate dive. The beer is actually palatable at an incredibly low price, you can become part of a problem at a place so greasy. You can bring all your friends there and leave without dinting your wallet. Well, i guess even with those few postivies it still is terrible, but i still find myself going back purely for the suds. I dont know if i will ever get over the tip comment, but hey, im a kid.