This place is good for basic bagels, always has been, but beyond that it's just par (not sub-par, but par). Of course that's only MY opinion. For my breakfast needs, I'd rather find a better place with breakfast bagels that taste a bit more fresh and juicy. Maybe I just had a bad experience, but I still feel like I'd go here again. Who knows, I did go pretty early when they were still kind of getting everything ready.