Went in to look at 2012 Odyssey tourings and to get my trade evaluated. Had agreed to a price on the van and then the trade-in estimate came 2k lower than expected at a KBB "Good" rating. Told them they needed to do better and to call me with another estimate. 24 hours go by with no call so i call and get it 1k below expected value. Go to another Honda dealership, got my price on the car, and got full value on the trade with a 5 year 1.9 financing while not buying any extras. These salesmen will try to make the most profit from you however they can. If they would have been upfront and realized the no-nonsense EDUCATED type of buyer they had, they would have had 2 new car sales in the span of a week. Instead my business went elsewhere. Since I am local, maybe I will give their service team a chance.