I don't know what Dave S.'s problem is, but The Playa II is a very homey, comfortable neighborhood bar. I am not trailer trash - major eastern city symphony orchestra musician with degrees who stumbled upon Phoenix when retiring - but I enjoy hanging out here in a friendly environment with Mama Sharen running the show. The kitchen is VERY good and very reasonable. Italian night on Wednesday is one of our favorites. Hamburgers are very good. Great drink specials. This is not a Scottsdale phony place - give it a try.