Didn't buy. No chance to. The two lazy morons that worked here couldn't muster much of anything past "what's up?" . The heavy set guy behind the counter seemed to be contemplating a bowel movement of sorts. No one was in the store. Sorry. I guess there must be a line of people on the weekend. Luckily I found what looked good. Was $400 here but $260 on eBay and I'm dealing with an experienced installer on Craigslist.