Went here because they said this joint supposed to be the arc enemy of in n out from the east coast. Order the smoke bacon burger plus the frozen custard with caramel. its not even close to beating in n out burger. Patty is small, overall is rather blah! Good location, pretty fast service if there is no line, but its just meh for me. Dont judge me cos I ate some pretty expensive burger compare to this one. So yah, try it for yourself, but its a one and done for me.