Wow, I used to play this course pretty regularly, but not anymore. Last 2 times I played, they ran out of carts and we were delayed 15 mins one time & almost half hour the 2nd time - just waiting for a golf cart. I thought I'd give the one more shot so I called to book a tee time and Ernie at the pro shop was the rudest guy I've talked to. "He didn't have the time" to talk with me on the phone & wanted to argue with me about the GolfNow rates. No problem, our weekly foursome will take our green fees to somewhere else in the East valley - lots of options!