This is a very challenging hike/climb and I found it far more difficult than Squaw Peak. I also felt very maladapted to the environment when as I was using all my rock climbing skills to get myself up a steep cliff area some tiny little girls came prancing through jogging past me like mountain goats and were easily able to bounce up the rock in two shakes of a lambs tail. What I learned from this climb is that there are some super athletes that train on this mountain all the time that just put me to shame so bad that I started doing P90X soon after I returned home.