Well, lets just say, the first time I went to The Griffin back in 2009, it was a treasure hidden in Vegas, and not too many locals and or tourists had heard of it. It was a quiet bar with beautiful ambiance. Its still beautiful but I wasn't impressed with the noise level and having the door men stand outside checking ID's. I miss the way it used to be. But maybe because I went on a Saturday night and most of the patrons were tourists. Looks like living downtown is not as special as it used to be. Probably wont be going back.