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Lead Pastor is an excellent speaker, preacher and one will not be bored by his teachings.
Protestant non-denominational 2000's church definition: 1) main services offered on Sunday (day#1) although offers a service on Sabbath (day#7).
2) we are all sinners however some churches like to pretend that some are better than we sinners(at least on Sundays), 3) services are largely networking events versus Jesus Christ authorized and Holy Spirit performed mandates (Mat 10:1, Mat 10:8, Luke 4:18-19, Joh 14:12, Heb 13:8, Jam 5:14-16).
My family and I stopped going when the worship music consistently exceeded 90dB.
Email Exchange:
From: "Sean Smith"
Date: Oct 21, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Feedback From a PVC Goodyear 1st Timer
To: Harold L
Cc:
Hi Harold,
Thanks for your input about the music. We are constantly working on and evaluating what we do, so getting feedback like this is important to us. I want to let you know a few things that may help a little bit.
We do measure the decibel level during the worship services. We try not to just go by "preference" or feel but try to be as good as we can about knowing where things are running. The apps available for smart phones give a good general idea, but are not extremely accurate. We use a microphone specifically designed for audio measurement that is in operation during each of the services and for rehearsals. Our service is typically run at about 96-98 decibels with peaks at 101 to 102 decibels. Although it seems that the service is loudest because of the amplification we rarely peak our sound during rehearsals, it is not until the auditorium is filled with people who sing that we hit the peak levels. We try to stay right around there most of the time. For comparison as to the level of our sound normal conversation is typically 60db-65db, using a hand drill is typically at 98db, a lawnmower while standing behind it is typically 101db, a loud rock concert is typically at 115db. The OSHA standard for daily noise levels is 2 hours per day at 102db and 1 hour per day at 105db.
I know this probably just seems like a bunch of numbers, but I want you to know this is something that we do pay attention to. Of course the reality is that you weren't encouraged and moved by the worship service and that is where the real issue lies. I am truly sorry that this was a distraction to you in worship and apologize that you did not have the best worship experiences this past weekend.
I hope we can give you some solutions to this. I do want to let you know that we have intentionally turned the volume down in the 8:15 service on Sunday mornings. You mentioned you attended at 10am, but you might try coming at 8:15 on Sundays. This service is typically run around 92db - 94db. This is something we started doing a few months ago and we will continue to try and make that a great service at a little lower volume level. If that volume is still a little loud you might try giving the lobby or family viewing room another try. We try to keep those volumes lower.
Harold, I am sorry that you did not have the experience in worship that we try to make happen. I hope that these things will help you to engage in worship and being a part of the body here at Palm Valley. Please let me know if you have any questions.
In Christ,
Sean Smith
Creative Arts Pastor
Palm Valley Church
From: Harold L
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:43 PM
To: Mark Olmos
Cc: Pastor Greg, Ryan Nunez, Bob Rohlinger
Subject: Feedback From a PVC Goodyear 1st Timer
Mark,
I attended the PVC Goodyear 10am worship until my ears could no longer stand the 100+ decibel's generated by your worship band at set levels of electronic amplification. I was seated in the center of the second row of the furthest back section of seats.
The Aerospace Industry and US Dept of Defense have long recognized 90 dBs as the point where ear protection is required. Although the acoustic community recently seems to prefer 85 dBs. I have made it to my mid-fifties with very good hearing by using hearing protection. Please do not take my word for it, have your sound board operator use a free Android phone App (Sound Meter or Noise Meter) to check.
Thank You and may God continue to Bless the PVC Ministries.
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