let me first say the tile installers DONT know what level is had them install new tile in a kitchen/ dinning area there was no kitchen cabinets to deal with i checked level before the ever did any work it was within 1/4 inch over a 8' span but after they installed the tile it was off 1 3/4 " over a 4' span the installer was supposed to one of the best according to FIRST CHOICE FLOORING ( even the owner came out and said what seems wrong!) really if you cant see how bad it is you should NOT be in the flooring business 2 guys showed up the one left after about a hour then came back later in the afternoon the one that stayed i tried to speak to him about floor all i got from him was dont speak english so just let be a warning buyer beware unless you have the put tile around your cabinets if not EXPECT a floor that is not level. and very costly mistake mine was $2500.00