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  • The salesman here was friendly, but about as close as you can get to a typical car salesman. If you come here, expect to be jerked around, negotiated and haggled with. I came here with a very specific price range in mind, and a very specific vehicle in mind. They showed me the vehicle that they had that was as close as they could get, but it was a year newer and was an upgraded model so it had a bit higher price on the window. Since he even bothered to show me this vehicle I'd expected that he could get it down to my price. This was not actually the case. First they had me sign a peice of paper that said that I would buy a car "when the terms were agreeable to both parties." Okay...sure. Then they wrote down the price I wanted to pay on the back accompanied with the statement "I will buy" and tried to get me to sign that before they'd even go calculate what the taxes and fees on that price would be. Of course, this would be a completely stupid thing to sign as it is far too vague and they should be able to calculate those things for me without a signiture. Furthermore, if I decided not to buy a car then they could then come back with the piece of paper that was a signed contract and I was pretty sure they were not above pulling crap like that. Yet, they kept insisting that they needed a commitment from me and kept pressing for my signiture on the piece of paper for 15 minutes before caving (them, not me). The salesman went back to his bosses and LO AND BEHOLD, they didn't actually need the signature after all. The price they came back with was 25% higher than I wanted to pay. The salesman kept wanting to talk about the price of the car BEFORE taxes and fees rather than the out-the-door price and although I'd already been approved for an auto-loan at an excellent rate thru my credit union he kept pressing me to run my credit so that they could approve me for more money. He kept saying that the extra 25% wasn't actually all that much money (IT IS TO ME MOTHER F$&%ER!) and that it was a great investment. (note: Cars are not a good investment, they are a necessity. They never appreciate and always depreciate even if you don't drive them.) They wouldn't tell me what thier percentage rate was on financing until they ran a credit check even though I told them that I knew my credit score as I'd applied at my credit union the day before. Also, I had my 2-year old with me at the time who was running all over the dealership. He didn't seem to show any sense of urgency in negotiating the price down for me. If I hadn't had my son with me then I might've stayed longer but as it was my son was getting tired and they were running out of time to negotiate. I finally left to go pull the car seat out of the minivan that we'd test-driven and he met me in the parking lot to try once more to get me to spend more money while my son was LITERALLY screaming his head off at that point. There was a ZERO chance that I was going to stick around to haggle when he'd already wasted so much time on stupid things like getting a signature that he didn't actually need. Edit: On second thought, my son was not LITERALLY screaming his head off, but he was literally screaming.
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