Ug! I used to be a regular at the north Scottsdale Whole Foods bar and loved the experience. Hate it here and I've tried a few times hoping maybe it was a fluke. It's just not the same. One bartender was completely miserable and not helpful at all. Whenever I've asked for suggestions no one seems to know their beer. Something I used to get at North. I would say mention a few of my favorite beers and they had suggestions that were spot on. I need to search out a new casual after work bar.