I called Apache from the showroom of a competitor because I could tell I was being jerked around. They immediately quoted an out-the-door price $3000 less then the store i was at. No questions just an honest quote. They didn't even know I was at a different store. The sales guy at the store I was at begged me to let him match or beat the price, but just on principle I told him where to go and purchased my atv at Apache.