Well, it looks like the West Valley is good for something - bagels. These babies are the real deal and they also taste perfect out of the freezer as well. Boiled, then baked is the only way to make bagels and since this side of town lost a few places, the search was on for this NY item. Well, now the search is over. I have tried nothing else, but toasted, fresh or frozen, these bagels (some a bit odd shaped) are top notch.