I don't get this place at all but wanted to try it. My girlfriend and I were hoping to find a neighborhood bar to just hangout at on a regular basis. This isn't it. I don't get it at all. Why would people come way up to the Kierland/Scottsdale Quarter area for an old town type bar. Drinks are average price but way overdone. Mule was overpowered with ginger and my girlfriends drink was overpowered with lemon. Swing and a miss.